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Sometimes I can’t be quiet

Hello friends. My name is Ryan and I have a problem being quiet with people who can’t see both sides of an issue. This personality trait got my skewered on another blog recently. Hello, MODG. You can read the comments on two posts here and here. You can be the judge. Apparently, I am a terrible, horrible, shady liar-face for having an opinion. What’s my deal?

I’ll give you the short version.

MODG is a total natural hippie Momma who was talking about the stygma related to breast feeding in public and she’s a firm believer that all women should be able to feed how they want, where they want and when they want. I tried to make the point that, when you’re talking about public breast feeding, it’s not just about the mother, child and their comfort. The definition of “public” is, at the core: pertaining to all people. There will always be, right or wrong, people who don’t want to see a stranger’s breast while they’re having dinner. And that’s okay too.

My real issue was that it became very clear that MODG and her supporters were demanding respect for their own comfort levels while not being willing to be respect those around them. Just because one person has chosen to be okay with breast feeding in public doesn’t mean everyone else has made the same conclusion and it’s not fair to push your beliefs on anyone else. And just because someone is uncomfortable with you breastfeeding in the grocery store doesn’t make them a terrible person. My suggestion was be aware of those around you, be respectful and validate whether those around you are as comfortable with your exposed breast as you are. If you know, or suspect, that you’re going to have to breast feed while in a restaurant or at Starbucks, ask for a more private booth.

And there was my fatal error.

I expected that, since most of MODG’s readers (I assume) are grown women, they’d be tolerant of opinions that differed from theirs. Yeah, wrong.

In subsequent comments, I was called a jackass, people implied I created an alias to defend myself (even though it’s very clear that that’s false) and MODG was encouraged to block me from ever commenting again.

Now, I can see that sort of reaction if I was all “YOU ARE DISGUSTING UGLY HORRIBLE PEOPLE WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. AND I DRANK THE LAST OF YOUR OJ IN THE FRIDGE!” But I was nothing but respectful when sharing my opinion. Sure, I don’t have breasts but I figure I’m entitled to have an opinion on public breast feeding because it is something that is pertaining to all the people. Prop 8 wasn’t limited to voting from only the LGBT community. So, using the precedent set by the US court system, we are allowed to have opinions on something we haven’t personally experienced. We’re all allowed opinions – at least that’s what I thought.

Anyway, I didn’t post this to start a flame war or anything else. I still love MODG, I will still read her site. But I will think twice before posting a comment in the future because I don’t appreciate the lynch mob mentality that’s being fostered (and supported) for those who don’t wholeheartedly agree with an opinion. My main reason for posting this was to publicly address something that’s been rumbling behind the scenes here. In the last 36 hours, I’ve gotten over 30 messages (emails, comments) from gals who read the comments on MODG and either agreed or disagreed with me.

Wherever you stand, this is what you should have taken away from this:


  1. I am a supporter of respectful breastfeeding in public. I don’t think that an exposed breast needs to be bounced around outside of the privacy of your home. But I do support a woman’s choice to feed her child how she chooses as long as you balance the needs of the mother/child with respecting those around you.

  2. I think you’re missing the opportunity to grow as a person when you don’t consider the other side of an argument and just flatly say it’s wrong.

  3. I think it’s childish to call names when a respectful sharing of opinions is happening. You instantly lose any credibility with me.


  4. Comparing the discrimination you face as a breast feeding parent does NOT compare to the discrimination that the LGBT community faces, so don’t try to play that for sympathy with me. Let me know when breast feeding women are beaten, murdered, have their marital rights stripped from them and/or can not start their families due to biased legislation. Sorry you feel uncomfortable but that’s pretty minor in the bigger scheme of things.

  5. I’m mostly a joker and I’m pretty light-hearted. But I stand firm behind my own beliefs. I can consider other viewpoints and I’ll admit when I’m wrong (to everyone other than my husband). But I’m not going to say I was wrong to avoid the wrath of a few crazy women who have watched Mean Girls once too often.



If you’ve found my site because of MODG Boobiegate 2011, welcome. You are always invited to share your opinions here, whether they line up with mine or not. And, unless you’re being abusive, overly childish or defamatory, I’m happy to have a discussion or debate with you. Maybe we’ll see eye to eye every time and maybe we won’t. But all I know is that I won’t continue to grow as a person if I’m surrounded by people who don’t challenge my views and ideas now and again.

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DFigSeptember 20, 2011 - 9:15 pm

Hopefully I can comment before the high volume hateration begins (or hopefully doesn’t begin!). I love your blog mostly because you always seem to give a “i could go with this or I could get with that” sort of vibe. I actually found you months ago via a comment you made on MODG and you have been in my reader ever since. I didn’t know there was a boobie war until the comment MODG made at the bottom of the boob hat post. When I read the comments I just didn’t get the debate. Your overall message was: be considerate of others PUBLIC space. Who can argue with that?? Well apparently everyone.

The “Talk to me when you have kids/learn to lactate” comment was SUPER LOW. I really couldn’t believe it went there and you point #4 above is right on! I hate when people play “let’s compare our discrimination”. I have been on the side of that as a black woman and it is no bueno…apples and oranges. Ay, dios mio, I need a drink!

AmelieSeptember 20, 2011 - 9:17 pm

i found your site from MODG. i’m about to unsubscribe because she’s gotten a little crazy. like the girl who’s to popular in school so she starts being a bitch.

RyanSeptember 20, 2011 - 9:22 pm

DFig – thanks for the support! I hope the hateration is minimal, and I thought about not writing this post or closing the comments on it, but then I thought that would be sort of the same thing I have a problem with in this situation. When you choose to blog about your opinions and accept comments, you have to be prepared to deal with people who agree with you and those that don’t.

I thought that point was really low too (the bit about me not being able to lactate). It seemed really out of place with how she normally is.

Amelie – I don’t know about that. I think she just feels strongly about this. I don’t think she’s necessarily being a bitch or acting like one. Please try to keep the name calling out of it or I’ll delete your comment. Sorry, sista. Just trying to keep it as a conversation and not a bar fight.

KBSeptember 21, 2011 - 1:25 am

I actually found you through MODG a while back and have been reading your stuff for a while, too. So, Hi :)

Anyway, when I read your comment last week I was like- Ohhhhh craaaaaapppp, he’s going to get hammered! And then you did. I happen to agree with you. I’m a mom. I have boobs. I breast fed. I felt that it wasn’t being respectful of other people to feed my child in public (unless I was super covered and it was an emergency-ish situation) because not everyone is all about boobs. And I’m okay with that.

So, I got your point. I’m sorry that people got all crazy on you. You’re right, we’re all adults and very few people that commented were acting like it. I still really like MODG, but I’m feeling like she’s found her following with the breast feeding thing and is running with it. I’m not a fan.

RyanSeptember 21, 2011 - 2:47 am

Hey KB – thanks for reading and thanks for chiming in! :) I guess I was dumb for thinking that I could give my opinion without things getting all crazy and personal. You live and you learn.
I agree – I am a MODG lover. I hope things don’t become all about her breasts and ovaries though. Even if that’s her chosen demographic, it can only go on so long unless she’s gonna keep cranking out babies.

CandySeptember 21, 2011 - 3:02 am

I actually dont agree with you on the bf thing. I agree with modg and the other girls. HOWEVER i dont think that people whould have gone all crazy and talked shit about you for saying what you think. modg should have shut that shit down.

MODGSeptember 21, 2011 - 6:02 pm

xoxo Ryan. I still love you forever and always.

RyanSeptember 21, 2011 - 6:09 pm

Candy – that was my point. I don’t expect people to agree with all of my opinions. I just thought things got a little out of control.

For MODG:

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I can’t quit you.

MODGSeptember 21, 2011 - 6:14 pm

You know a good sparkle will get me any day of the week.

laurenSeptember 26, 2011 - 8:15 pm

Hi Ryan, I also found you via MODG. Just wanted to say that I really appreciate you sharing your opinion and sticking up for yourself (and everyone else with a different take!) I was really shocked by how personal things got over there, and that MODG didn’t seem interested in fostering rational discussion. It wasn’t cool at all and it’s crazy to me that “adults” can’t just accept that people might feel differently than they do, and respect that. I’ve added your blog to my reader – it’s great stuff and I love the vibe here! :)

RyanSeptember 26, 2011 - 8:19 pm

Hi Lauren – thanks for the kind words! I made my few posts, left for awhile thinking that it’d just be part of the conversation and then came back to see that I was getting eaten alive. I was pretty surprised! It was a double whammy of disappointment that people were resorting to that and then that MODG didn’t seem to have any interest in moderating because she didn’t agree with my views. That hurt my feelers more than being called a dirty-liar-pants-pee-face.

MODG and I have virtually hugged it out, so all is good now though. :)

I’m glad you’re going to hang around – I am heading over to check our your site now. :)

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DesireeOctober 5, 2011 - 1:41 am

First, extra big smooches for the shout out on today’s post! Love it and I’m going to to the same just as soon as the baby is for sure for sure down for the night.

Second, I stuck up for you while we were in Rio, so I only briefly went to her site, saw they were getting on you and was like, Oh HELL No! So I threw up a quick comment before we went down to dinner. I totally wanted to say more but it wasn’t my blog and Drew was fussing at me to get off the computer.

And C, I just now read this post and you so smaht!! I completely agree with you and will elaborate on my own blog.

Nextly, I find it very interesting that she came over here, commented but didn’t really have anything to say about the issue. Granted, I haven’t gone back over to The Post That Started It All but you’d think a small explanation/apology to you/your readers would have been in order??

Ah well, water under the bridge and y’all have hugged it out so I won’t be mad on your behalf anymore, but please believe I got your back and will cut a bitch without hesitation.

I MEAN, I will send them a strongly worded letter on scented paper.

Not really. More the first one. But we must keep up appearances you know.

RyanOctober 5, 2011 - 2:17 am

Ha! Whatevs. I’m like a hooker – I don’t need reciprocation. ;)

I’m thick skinned and I can take people hatin’ on me. But, until you said something, I was starting to feel like maybe I really was crazy and being a dick. So thanks validating my sanity and for being the shit.
MODG and I kinda hashed things out via email so I don’t think she had anything else to add. She feels that she’s 100% right and I can respect that. I don’t necessarily agree, but I respect that.
HAHA. I love you. You know I’ve got your back too cause that’s how we roll up in here!

NSCOctober 7, 2011 - 1:54 pm

Sigh….

Personally, I’m totally with you on the respectful feeding thing. But, most importantly, being able to see and respect both sides of the issue. And for someone whose moniker stands for Naked Sober Chick, I think everyone should listen to me, public and private boob feeders alike!

Keep up the ol’ chin Ryan!

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